8/27/2019 Rogator 1274 Operation Manual
You are logged in as a guest. ( ) rogator wheel motor Jump to page: Now viewing page 1 50 messages per page:: - Message format Posted 4/9/2012 23:13 (#2328791) Subject: rogator wheel motor Union, IA I have a 1998 854.
I have a wheel motor leaking oil. What are my options?
Are they something that can be fixed in my shop? Or is it something that needs to be taken off and fixed or just replaced all together?
If so where do I look for one? Is there a company that sells rebuilds instead of buying new? TIA Posted 4/9/2012 23:25 (#2328823 - in reply to #2328791) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor Most likely needs new wheel seal. You will need special tools to do the job properly. Take the unit off and get your local Ag-Chem dealer to do it, or a good hydraulics shop.
If it isn't leaking too badly, you might be able to slow down the leak by greasing it. Sprayertech and speak to this with more wisdom. Posted 4/9/2012 23:36 (#2328853 - in reply to #2328791) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor SW Iowa How bad is it leaking? A drip or two on the wheel? How often have you been greasing it? Where is it leaking, on the inside of the rim of the outside of the rim?
The seal kit is probably around $900-1000, and an experianced tech can probably reseal the motor in 2-3 hrs. It is not a job for the faint of heart, it is easy to screw up, and its easy to end up needing a $7000 reman motor from a mistake on assembly. I've probably done 50 of those, and ended up having to hang a couple remans due to a failure (either parts or induced upon assembly ). Look at it this way.
There is a guy in your area that does them often, he drives a white service truck with a yellow stripe, and if he screws up the assembly, and ruins the motor, his company will buy a reman. I would suggest you hire it done this time, help/watch the tech do the repair, have him explain how the motor works, and then you can decide if you want to tackle the next one when it leaks. If I never see the inside of one of those motors again, it will be too soon. Michael Posted 4/9/2012 23:38 (#2328855 - in reply to #2328791) Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor We found that we were greasing ours too often. Posted 4/10/2012 05:04 (#2328981 - in reply to #2328855) Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor How often is too often? Seems like there is either the 'too often' group and the 'not often enough' group. I just put a few shots of grease with every tank of diesel used.
Watch them start leaking tomorrow. Posted 4/10/2012 07:40 (#2329074 - in reply to #2328791) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor SW Iowa It depends on the Rogator. I know of alot of 854s that are greased daily. It also depends on if you are traveling 2 miles to the field, or a day that you spend 50 miles traveling between 2 acre patches. Newer machines, 8/1064s are very easy to overgrease.
For the most part they fall in the 'not daily' greasing. The owners manual tells how often to do it. If the OP is putting a tube of grease in every day, I would run it a couple days without greasing them, to see if the leak stops. If it has one drip on the rim from sitting all winter, I would run it. If its putting a cup on the wheel each time you stop the machine, it probably needs a new seal kit. Posted 4/10/2012 08:05 (#2329121 - in reply to #2329074) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor Union, IA It is leaking quit a bit. Not covering the wheel but you can see drip strips down the tire that are covered with dust.
I have noticed some very minor dripping but this spring it is three times the amount of oil as other years. Posted 4/10/2012 08:21 (#2329156 - in reply to #2328981) Subject: RE: rogator wheel motor. Jon S - 4/10/2012 04:04 How often is too often? Seems like there is either the 'too often' group and the 'not often enough' group.
I just put a few shots of grease with every tank of diesel used. Watch them start leaking tomorrow. We used to be daily and went to every other. Posted 4/10/2012 12:11 (#2329446 - in reply to #2329121) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor Belwood, Ontario Time to reseal it The above posts are correct get some one who has the tools And experience to do it. Most hyd shops do not have the rolling for it Should only take a few hrs if nothing else is wrong inside Greasing should be 1 or 2 shots every 75 hrs when they Are Warm Posted 5/2/2012 15:33 (#2365594 - in reply to #2329446) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor How did you determine every 75 hrs was the best interval?
Posted 5/3/2012 19:28 (#2367361 - in reply to #2365594) Subject: Re: rogator wheel motor Belwood, Ontario the actual written is 50 on frt 100 on rear, i just split the difference, the point being the less the better but still need some Jump to page: Now viewing page 1 50 messages per page Jump to forum:.
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The third generation of post-emergency applicators calls RoGator 874 / 1074 / 1274. The machines are not just more powerful, they are also simpler to maintain due to changes in the drive circuit. The RoGator 874 and RoGator 1074 are powered by proven Cat® 3126B diesel engines equipped with full electronic control and waste-gated turbochargers. The RoGator 874, with its 800-gallon product tank capacity, is well served by the Cat engine's 250 SAE hp (186 kW) with a power bulge to 275 SAE hp (205 kW) and peak torque of 760 lb-ft (1030 n-m). On the RoGator 1074, the powerful Cat engine produces 275 SAE hp (204 kW) with peak power of 299 SAE hp (223 kW) and peak torque of 830 lb-ft (1125 n-m) to easily handle its 1,000-gallon product tank capacity.
The RoGator 1274 with its 1200-gallon product tank is equipped with a 8.8 liter Caterpillar C9 engine with an output of 325 hp. The new Sauer/Danfoss hydrostatic pumps combine with higher torque motors on the front wheels to maximize efficient use of the increased power. The tandem 90 series pumps provide more solid pressure control, thanks to a 35% higher flow rate of 66 gpm for even stronger performance. More design enhancements that further extend RoGator's high standards in reliability and efficient operation include improved flow meter positioning, a more accessible electrical distribution center, repositioned and enhanced rinse tank, roomier platform and auto-retracting ladder. In 2006, the Super Sprayers series has been presented. With 3-models to complete the series, the RoGator SS874, SS1074 and SSC1074 combine to bring sturdy suspension, operator comfort and all the power needed for any application operation. Changes of note begin with the air-ride chassis.
Rogator 1274c Operation Manual
Inside the cab, control panels were evaluated for frequency of use, and interior layout redesign freed up floor space. Control panels now ride on a full floating armrest, giving operators immediate and easy access to the most commonly used controls. Less frequently used controls are easy to reach on the B-post panel.
Increased glass improves already extensive visibility, and a new climate control system improves cab life with three-level filtration and automatic temperature control. The improved suspension with air springs, anti-roll system, shock absorbers and front and rear automatic ride height leveling takes the edge off the roughest field. For an even smoother ride, customers can choose the optional semi-active seat with heated seat cushions.
The RoGator SS Series retains the powerful 439 cu. (7.2L) Cat 3126B engine of the RoGator 1074 with its 275 SAE HP at 2500 rpm and power bulge to 299 SAE hp at 2200 rpm. They also retain the proven full-time 4-wheel hydrostatic drive and air system.
In addition, this new series offers the option for dry or wet systems and spinner or air boom distribution on the dry systems.
You are logged in as a guest. ( ) Rogator 1264 Jump to page: Now viewing page 1 50 messages per page:: - Message format Posted 4/26/2016 11:13 (#5264262) Subject: Rogator 1264 I just bought my first self propelled sprayer. A Rogator 1264 it appears to be in really good shape and have sprayed 1200 acres of wheat it worked great.
We got about 1 1/2 inches of rain and now my fields are really soft I assumed with the 4 wheel drive it would go through just fine but found the back wheels spin out while the front wheels don't seem to be pulling like they should. I know that 4X4 pickups front wheels have a slightly faster front axel than the back to prevent the back from working against the front. Shouldn't it be the same with the axels on the Rogator? I have never been around equipment that uses hydraulic motors to drive it, how do you know if the motors are bad or if there is a different problem with the sprayers drive terrain? Any information would be great help? Posted 4/26/2016 11:32 (#5264298 - in reply to #5264262) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 Central Nebraska Depending on the year, we had an older machine that had a switch for 4 wheel drive and then a button on the steering column to lock the front wheels to drive / pull.
With our newer machine (1274c ), if I remember right, it is supposed to automatically do that in 1st gear only. Posted 4/26/2016 11:55 (#5264332 - in reply to #5264298) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 Thank you for your help, I am not aware of any switches but then again, I'm not very fond of the owners manual AGChem provided with this sprayer, its not very informative at all. Another question I have is on the air suspension, I have found that their are two switches on the console that operate the suspension but when pushed the air is dumped from the front air bags but the rear don't seem to pump up until till after I begin moving the machine is this normal?
Posted 4/26/2016 12:05 (#5264349 - in reply to #5264332) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 SE Illinois If I remember right, I think 1st and 3rd gear are 50/50 while 2nd and 4th are 30/70 on the power distribution. That was what our rep told me when we were running a 2000 model 854. Posted 4/26/2016 13:24 (#5264494 - in reply to #5264349) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 No traction control on a Rogator since 95.
A 1264 has a drive block at the back of the machine and all the drive oil from the hydros dumps into there. From there is goes to what ever wheel turns the easiest. Do the front tires have more tread then the rears. Shifting to a different range can help.
Posted 4/26/2016 13:25 (#5264496 - in reply to #5264262) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 Eastern Nebraska I had a 1274 that would go threw way more mud in 2nd than 1st gear, not sure if they are the same Posted 4/26/2016 13:26 (#5264497 - in reply to #5264332) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 Never heard of a way to adjust the air suspension from in the cab for a rogator. There is a factory air ride cab adjustment on some in the cab. Posted 4/26/2016 16:28 (#5264750 - in reply to #5264497) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 North Central Texas Is he is referring to the foamer switches? If the foamer tank valve is open and you flip the switch, you will drain the air. I'm sitting in a 1264 right now.
We went through floodwaters last year running wheat and corn. 1st gear will pull way more mud than second. Posted 4/26/2016 17:50 (#5264870 - in reply to #5264494) Subject: RE: Rogator 1264 I first want to thank all willing to help me with this sprayer. As far as the tread, it has very wore tires probably the originals it is a 2004 model with 2800 hours on it. The switches I am referring to are right below the tread width switches, The dealer I bought it from were not familiar with these two switches the salesman thought it might have been added by the previous owner but i cant imagine why they would ever want to dump the air except for possibly to transport the machine on a trailer. As far as the traction goes, I was spraying wheat stubble for preplant corn so i dont want the deep tracks in the field and am disappointed it digs so much. I was hoping the 4-wheel drive would pull through without digging.
The compaction with my pull type was bad enough but would be acceptable with this machine because of the narrow tracks. Now you all know my frustrations, any suggestions are appreciated Thanks a bunch.
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